tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7630151433712540026.post1576884068339150517..comments2023-09-08T10:01:06.969-05:00Comments on News In Focus: New Hope Church- Prosperity Gospel DeceptionTrevor Hammackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03758938087739499249noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7630151433712540026.post-50087180843316087162009-10-23T20:57:14.229-05:002009-10-23T20:57:14.229-05:00Mr. Browne...I can quote Scripture too...
"T...Mr. Browne...I can quote Scripture too...<br /><br />"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. (Acts 20:28-31)Jim Leavenworthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7630151433712540026.post-67286877510835253312009-10-17T07:54:43.851-05:002009-10-17T07:54:43.851-05:00John 4:35 " Say not ye, There are yet four m...John 4:35 " Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest."Rodney Howard Brownehttp://rodneyhowardbrowne.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7630151433712540026.post-32086887926334751112009-07-28T19:20:20.372-05:002009-07-28T19:20:20.372-05:00And yet another drive-by anonymous post that doesn...And yet another drive-by anonymous post that doesn't really address anything that I pointed out that's disturbing about what happened that night.<br /><br />OK...let's try to actually stay on target here "anonymous." Was the focus of my article on how good or bad the praise band...or how upset I was at being forced to sit up front? No. <br /><br /><br />As to 'street ministries'- please! THis is just ABC, repeat after me unscriptural evangelism. Even the evangelist's wife was bragging how she got the guy smoking the cigarrete to say a pray even though he didn't want to. <br /><br />Is this evangelism as the apostles did it? No. Living by faith does not mean making false claims that can never be substantiated. Wasn't that the point of the miracles in the NT...they were to prove that the one performing the miracle was an apostle and was true. Your supposed miracles are NEVER substantiated and proven...cause they're false. Prove us wrong...provide proof that this woman was healed of her hearing loss.<br /><br />You seem to miss that I actually praised some of the young people that gave testimonies...they were honest and want the Lord to do His work...they've just been taught that if you get someone to say yes to a script that the person is saved. I'm sorry if you think I'm critical...that is NOT the gospel.<br /><br />This is not winning souls...it's damning many to hell since they think they got their ticket punched by repeating a prayer according to a script. <br /><br />Please do two things for me. #1- read my 2nd post that showed what the true meaning of the Luke passage that the guy preached. DO you really think the purpose and meaning of the Luke 5 passage was about becoming rich and getting material things from God as he preached? If you do then I'm wasting my time. That's NOT what the passage is about at all and it was a horrible twist of scripture to say so. It's shameful.<br /><br />#2- Read all the passages that I quoted that talk about evangelism in the NT and tell me if they are encouraging people to repeat a script even though they don't believe it or are convinced they are lost and in need of a Saviour. I don't think you'll find the New Hope experience there.<br /><br />I noticed also that you didn't tell me where any of the 15-16000 people were that got saved. Who baptized them? Who is grounding them in the Word now...why aren't they filling the church doors as in the book of Acts and the passage I quoted? could it be that they didn't get saved because they just repeated a prayer? Maybe a few did...and for that I praise God. But for the rest who live the rest of their lives thinking they're saved because New Hope led them in a simple script and are lost...is sickening and shameful.<br /><br />Please don't just rant and rave because you are a friend or member of the church...answer the questions that are posed here. If you can't they you need to think about why you are not concerned that the pattern of "evangelism" that night was NOT the NT pattern. Why wasn't the text preached as it was given in the Word? Why are people encouraged to give up all their expensive jewelry? Why are people encouraged to buy "anointed" iPods...didn't know they could be annointed.<br /><br />Show me anywhere in scripture that the apostles evangelized by saying "just ask Jesus into your heart" without first encouraging the person to see themselves as the dirty, rotten, spiritually dead enemy of God that the Word tells us we are...a person can't get saved until they realize they're lost...and there is no way a person will realize they're lost by just saying "yes" to someone asking "Just pray this prayer"...or "I'm here, you're here, why not?" <br /><br />JimJim Leavenworthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7630151433712540026.post-50886575276806699522009-07-27T23:41:48.242-05:002009-07-27T23:41:48.242-05:00I just must say how much I agree with your very cr...I just must say how much I agree with your very critical essay on New Hope Church. I mean how DARE they usher you to the front with hospitality with the expectation that God was going to bring in the harvest that night. I am so glad that instead actively engaging in worship lead by the Beltway band that you simply “listened to them for 15 min.” Because it isn’t at all about bringing an offering of praise unto the Lord. And I am just flabbergasted to hear that they allowed the people who had been doing street ministries to give testimonies because we all know that we overcome “by the blood of the lamb and by a doctor’s report.” I sure wouldn’t want to “live by faith and not by sight” when it came to healings provided by God. And I am pleased to hear that you completely look past the God centered worship and message, and the biblically encouraged outreach to see that New Hope teaches their young people “man-centered” theology. Finally, it just baffles me to think that people are getting off their highly critical websites and going out “into all the world to make disciples of all men”. It’s just crazy to think that SOME Christians are determined to win souls for the kingdom, even if it means stepping out of the “box” of evangelism that should obviously never be breached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com