AN UNSAVED CHARISMATIC
Today I recived a very good question by e-mail and It made me do some research and I thought what I found could be helpful to many people.
Here is the question: I have simplified the question, this is not how the writer of the e-mail stated it:
Charismatic leders speak in tounges, do miracles, and heal people, Dosen't this have to be from God because lost people could not do these miracles and Satan would only bring about suffering and destruction:
I woulld point people to an important verse to begin with:
2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Also consider:
Matthew 7:22 gives us a picture of Judgement. Those who are being judged claimed that they cast out Devils but look at whay they are told by God: I never knew you! depart from me! That is an amazing verse!
Also consider this:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 - 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But you may ask, do we have a clear example of a lost person speaking in tounges and healing people?
I think we do. watch the following video
Here is the question: I have simplified the question, this is not how the writer of the e-mail stated it:
Charismatic leders speak in tounges, do miracles, and heal people, Dosen't this have to be from God because lost people could not do these miracles and Satan would only bring about suffering and destruction:
I woulld point people to an important verse to begin with:
2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Also consider:
Matthew 7:22 gives us a picture of Judgement. Those who are being judged claimed that they cast out Devils but look at whay they are told by God: I never knew you! depart from me! That is an amazing verse!
Also consider this:
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 - 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But you may ask, do we have a clear example of a lost person speaking in tounges and healing people?
I think we do. watch the following video
1 Comments:
Hank Hannegraaf in his book "Christianity in Crisis" and in other articles explains the actual process that leaders of the modern Counterfiet Revival use to look miraculous when they're not.
But this video shows it, and in a way that flabbergasts me! CRAZY!!!
(Side note) The passage from The Message seems like a nice wording of what's going on here. Just realize that "The Message" is not an actual Bible and should certianly NOT be called the word of God. It is actually the word of man because it's an extreme paraphrase by man of God's word. It's neither a Bible nor a version of the Bible. It's strictly a super loose paraphrase. There are some Bible versions that vary in degree to which the paraphrase to make the Bible more readable. It's just that The Message tries way too hard to make the Bible readable...and paraphrases to such a high degree that it might better resemble a commentary of sorts.)
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